I believe other factors existed 100 years ago .Life expectancy..less contraception... many pregnancies ..breast feeding...

I think Menopause Moxie was just a sales pitch....

Hi Ellemm,

M2 may be a series of posts by someone who is on a mission to educate women about menopause treatments, but she doesn't seem to be trying to sell any products, so it just seemed best to me to let her post.

As I've said, this is an important topic and as far as I can tell, no one answer that is correct for all women.

Almost daily I remove posts from new people who are trying to pitch products here, and I have no trouble doing that. But I let M2 go, because there was no product being sold.

I’m not selling anything although I’m sure it appears as though I am. I don’t take offense to skepticism and welcome conversation. Not everyone is going to agree with me and I’m not interested in winning any popularity contests. What I say goes against the “norm” in medicine but I'm compelled to speak up. We have been mislead, both patients and providers, as to what real medicine is. Our modern medical model has nothing to do with wellness and preventing disease. Healthcare reform isn’t about health care; it’s about insurance and money. When we go to the doctor and complain about our symptoms, we leave with a handful of prescriptions to manage the symptoms of disease we go there for in the first place. When did it become okay to allow doctors to keep us ill so they can write scripts for the drug companies? This is a very good business model for the pharmaceutical industry that has been fine tuned over the past 30 years. There isn’t a whole lot of money to be made with healthy people. Our medical model should contain education for every medical student on how to get to the root cause of the problem, fix it as naturally as possible, and minimize prescription drugs.

Standing up against the medical industry puts me at risk for sounding like a conspiracy theorist but I started Menopause Moxie because there is so much misinformation circulating on the internet about perimenopause, PMS, menopause, and their treatments. Women have been suffering for years with estrogen deficiency and the conditions caused by it, but are only given drugs to manage the symptoms. Doctors are managing symptoms that can be eliminated by getting to the cause of the problem for perimenopause, PMS, menopause, and other estrogen deficiency conditions women take prescription drugs to manage. If we know these conditions stem from estrogen deficiency, why aren’t we restoring the very estrogen we used to have that protected us against diseases and made us feel alive? Women are given low dose hormones to treat the symptoms of estrogen deficiency but continue to be estrogen deficient, staying at risk for other degenerative diseases. This is the exercise wheel of conventional medicine. Women want off the nightmare ride but they don’t know where to go for answers and help. There are only a handful of doctors who think outside of the conventional box of medicine who are interested in restoring hormones to adequate levels. Medical school teaches doctors disease management, not how to get patients well. Even if doctors wanted more training in hormone optimization, there are only a couple of independent doctors in this country that train other doctors how to do it. Right now there is no formal training for hormone restoration and women are paying for it in more ways than one.

Thank you Anne for allowing me to speak freely.

Well, I'll go ahead and speak freely, Menopause Moxie. For someone who is only seeking to educate, you might want to reevaluate your style here just a bit. This is a bit like having a conversation and a stranger just barges in and starts a whole new topic.

You may not be looking for friends, but surely you are seeking listeners. You couldn't maybe say hello first? No, "Hi, I'm Menopause Moxie and have been through it all regarding women's health issues. I'd love to share what I have learned with you."

Believe me, the other posters here will testify that I can be pretty blunt and am not a shy flower who gets her feelings hurt easily. I actually mistook you for one of those people who periodically floods the group here with some product. You know, we just wait for Anne to clear those posts out....

If others want to tell me I'm out of line I'll accept the criticism fully.

Ellemm,

I didn't realize I was barging in. It's difficult for a newcomer to find a place in communities and feel welcomed. My apologies for the intrusive entrance, and I appreciate you speaking up and making me aware. Is it too late for an introductory post?

I also felt a bit "flooded"

indeed my post re other factors has not been replied to.

so like you Ellemn I saw a bit of overkill.
Being a Boomer I have been there got the t shirt re menopause and hormones.I agree thyroid is connected to symptoms.
as a believer in holistic and naturopath support and emotional well being I see a big picture.
It is not or has ever been my wish to retain youth but to live and age naturally. I see beauty in age and wisdom in experience.

Living in the UK I see a different aspect of healthcare...female gynacologists and an awareness of feminisim

I have never felt you to be blunt Ellemn rather a clear thinker and have enjoyed connecting with you

Moxie,

It's never too late to for an introductory post, IMHO.

Ellemn,

I enjoy people saying what they're thinking. It's refreshing.


MA,

Sometimes, time is sparse. And we don't always see every post. I'm sure if you have posts that have been overlooked, it's just human error due to a lack of time, not intentional.

It was a comment Jabber to show I had contributed to the discussion.no problem .